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(plastic bag rustling)

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(man speaking in a foreign language)

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(man speaking in a foreign language)

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(gentle music)

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- Here are some,

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books I made.

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Actually this is the first one from 1995.

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I did it together with my
close friend (indistinct)

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That was my first really
big project called,

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"Decadence: In Morbid Colors", in 2006.

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It was book in exhibition in
the Municipal House in Prague.

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And actually the next was a,

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quite big project as well,

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also dealing with decadence
of course, what else?

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Called "Decadence Now! Visions of Excess"

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and it was in Rudolfinum in Prague

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but it had dealt with the
decadence in contemporary culture.

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So we had works by
Mapplethorpe, (indistinct),

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Cindy Sherman

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and others.

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This record was made in 2009,
and it was also like a part

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of the wider project, it
was exhibition in Brussels,

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and I asked (indistinct)

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to do, like a remix

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of very famous song by Serge
Gainsbourg, "La Décadanse"

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And he had asked Monica
(indistinct) to work with him

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and they made like a 60 minute
long remix of that song,

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and we decided to have
it on record, you know.

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Because I'm that vinyl generation,

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all the music I started
to listen as a teenager

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was on vinyls.

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And, I still think that
the sound is better.

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And I like it as a object

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because you can combine art and music,

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because if you have this format

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you can really do much more
than with a small format of CD.

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(music scratching)

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(upbeat music)

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(saxophone playing)

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(upbeat music)

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(man speaking in foreign language)

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(audience clapping)

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- I remember that once the university,

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someone asked us if we would be interested

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in joining the Communist Party.

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I just replied to the guy,
"Can you imagine that someone

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like me would be member
of Communist Party?"

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And that person look at me and said,

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"No, I cannot imagine that."

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(man speaking in foreign language)

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But even I was young boy,

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I felt that there is something different.

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Is something strange and not normal.

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It touched our family.

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My father had certain problems in his job,

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for almost 10 years he
was not allowed to teach.

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And so it was like there was no presence,

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there was no future, there
was no past, you know?

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Every day was the same,

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in Czech it would be
(indistinct) time without time

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or time is without content.

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We didn't have anything in
common with the culture,

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as I understood the term culture.

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I understood and I
still understand culture

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is something eyeopening, challenging.

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Something, what can change your
life, your way of thinking.

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(rock music)

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- I remember going to this
club called, "The Junior",

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It would always be packed.

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(rock music playing in the background)

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And usually at least third of
the audience would be police.

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So, that's going to concerts was.

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Foreign bands, no way.

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(man laughs)

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Together with Unijazz,

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we promote this show of Lydia Lunch

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who's legendary to us and,
(man laughs)

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"Labor of Love", to promote this show.

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(rock music)

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It's better if you pick them up.

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I'm sort of a host,

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of the band.

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(rock music)

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♪ Big whaley wide is on the make again ♪

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♪ He thought he paid his
dues but he's in debt again ♪

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- We could see on Soviet television,

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which we can receive
here in Czechoslovakia,

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that the regime in Soviet Union got loose.

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And that's actually
where I first time saw,

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a video, promotional video
for teenage riot song

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by Sonic Youth, it was
on Soviet TV in 1987, 88.

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And, so it was like, "Whoa,
something is changing."

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But if I could

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see myself promoting these bands?

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No.

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(rock music)

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(indistinct)

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♪ (indistinct) on the telephone ♪

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♪ (indistinct) I warned
you it would come to this ♪

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(indistinct)

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Oh, let me show you something.

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Look at this.

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♪ I warned you it would come to this ♪

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♪ All of your friends are
so sick of this shit ♪

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(rock music)

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(man knocking)

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(man speaking in foreign language)

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(both speaking in foreign language)

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(man laughs)

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- So these are the works from
the last three, four months.

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And as a group it will be exhibited

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in Paris this fall, in December.

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And it's completely new
chip train Joseph's career.

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There's not so many other
artists besides Joseph who we are

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like constantly following this direction.

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And that for him they're
important influences

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like the industrial bands from late 80s,

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(speaking in a foreign language)

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which showed that the
industrial surroundings

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can have its own specific beauty you know,

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which people didn't see because
they didn't want to see,

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because they associated this
functionalist industrial

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landscapes with normalization
with a communist regime.

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(punk music)

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One of the basic feelings
of the 80s is isolation.

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To be intentionally
isolated from the world

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which was outside.

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Music somehow opened that space for me.

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Music which I liked at the time

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had always some kind of
connection with other art forms,

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you know.
So from the music,

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my interest spread to cinematography,

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visual arts, literature.

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What I liked about the underground

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or alternative scene of the 80s

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was that, these people
didn't want to have anything

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to do with the regime.

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They even didn't want to protest against.

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We wanted to ignore it.

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We want it to behave
like it doesn't exist.

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We didn't watch TV, we
didn't listen radio.

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So were trying to cut
all the possible relation

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with that culture and to be
there living in sort of small

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subculture communities.

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(rock music)

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- Football, especially in European terms,

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to root for a certain club
there's also a political choice.

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Here in Prague, the most
famous is, "Sparta".

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And the communists of course
will like promoting "Sparta",

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as a communist team.

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"Bohemians", were mostly intellectuals.

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So no wonder that people in
descents of the 70s and 80s,

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were fans of "Bohemians" too.

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And when in 1983, when we won the title,

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the descend was heavily celebrating it.

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It was actually a political thing.

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The name of the stadium is "Ďolíček".

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This says "Ďolíček nedáme!", it means,

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"We don't give Ďolíček up!"

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On the other side on the right, it says,

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"Ďolíček more than a stadium".

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And it's true.

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This feels like home.

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(fans singing foreign language)

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(crowd cheering and singing)

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(rock music)

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(band singing in a foreign language)

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- About my roots.

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My roots are,

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at home we had a lot of
music from recordings.

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Like classical music and I
was going for the concerts,

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with my parents.

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So I started to play guitar.

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I was bored with the pop music,

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I didn't understand it, you know.

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I got a recording of
this English punk music,

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and something broke in me and I said,

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"Oh, that's what I'm
dreaming about all the time."

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(punk music)

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Simple in the technical way

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but big in the social and emotional way.

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We started with a band (indistinct)

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I was 18 or 19,

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and the others were 3 or
4 years younger than me,

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so we were like children.

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We started in 79,

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the problem with the
police started in 1982.

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(punk music)

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We started to have some
influence in the society

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very quickly.

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There was a article about
the "Czech Alternative Scene"

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in a new musical express magazine.

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It looked like it's
too much for the police

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that we are connected
with some foreign country.

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So they wanted me to stop
playing, which I said,

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"Okay, I will stop playing."

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But in 2 weeks I was
playing again because,

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when you are 18 you
don't mind very much that

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if you had to go to the
prison, it was like, "Okay."

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The life was not so interesting
in Prague in the time,

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so, maybe the prison is
much more interesting.

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(punk music)

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(woman singing in a foreign language)

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- Punk was this first historical platform

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where women could join in.

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I had no idea.

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I thought it is the
most natural thing like,

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you have your friend and you
started band with the friend.

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We had no idea that in Britain
there were, "The Slits",

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and "The Raincoats", at the same time,

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the early 80s were doing
absolutely the same thing as us.

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These records never made
it across the Iron Curtain.

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We didn't have like
really much to work with.

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We rehearsed at home,
we didn't have a place.

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Instead of drums, had carton boxes.

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And I bought for the hub, picking money,

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Galaxy's electric guitar, which
I connected to a gramophone.

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(punk music)

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(woman singing in a foreign language)

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Then we were asked to have a concert.

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And, it was the first one
was at (indistinct) 007

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with when "Garáž" wanted to play with us.

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So they invited us and they called us.

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(speaking foreign language)

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(laughing)

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And then because we were
such armatures we had no,

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of course permissions.

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We didn't know that you're
supposed to have permission.

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And then "Garáž" was banned.

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Like, because they had us
without a permission playing.

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It must've been 81 or 82.

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After 83 it kind of got
better, after the scandal

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with the "Tribunal" article,
where the so-called new wave

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and punk was attacked as
this anti-socialist thing.

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Then it kind of got easier around 84, 85.

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The scene was thriving,

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it seemed like everyone around
us was creating something.

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It was like a really joyful time.

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(punk music)

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(man singing in a foreign language)

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- I was lucky that I had friends
who had similar interests.

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So we were sharing the information,

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knowledge, connections.

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So it was sort of like a
network which was maybe small,

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but there was many networks
like that, you know.

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And all this one small group was connected

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through one person with another one.

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So then we knew about some
other people who we never met,

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but we knew about them.

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We knew that they had
these records or source.

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So we were sort of exchanging
records with people

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who we never met before.

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(man speaking in a foreign language)

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- With vinyl,

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it's a ritual.

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00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,920
You gotta make time, and you
start with the art cover,

260
00:21:33,670 --> 00:21:35,089
you know.

261
00:21:35,090 --> 00:21:38,899
Packaging, look at it, it's nice,

262
00:21:38,900 --> 00:21:43,659
and then, you have to like, pull it out.

263
00:21:43,660 --> 00:21:48,660
Sometimes you have to fight
against static electricity.

264
00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:50,350
See?

265
00:21:51,130 --> 00:21:52,553
It's stuck to it.

266
00:21:53,470 --> 00:21:57,229
An album by my friends,
"Please The Trees".

267
00:21:57,230 --> 00:22:01,229
And I'm proud of
contributing to it actually.

268
00:22:01,230 --> 00:22:04,509
This is first time I am going
to hear this record from vinyl

269
00:22:04,510 --> 00:22:07,763
because it just came out,
and I just brought it home.

270
00:22:09,490 --> 00:22:10,600
Let's see then.

271
00:22:19,206 --> 00:22:21,623
(rock music)

272
00:22:33,446 --> 00:22:38,446
♪ Have you heard the news ♪

273
00:22:39,312 --> 00:22:41,975
♪ And it's here, other- ♪

274
00:22:41,976 --> 00:22:45,053
The 80s, it was like total darkness,

275
00:22:46,750 --> 00:22:50,203
people couldn't, you know, buy
records, listen to anything.

276
00:22:51,070 --> 00:22:53,959
You got this record by, "The Cure".

277
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,759
It's a singles collection.

278
00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,113
They put out, I think it was 85, 86.

279
00:23:02,890 --> 00:23:05,169
And I got this at (indistinct)

280
00:23:05,170 --> 00:23:08,193
and almost lost it when running away,

281
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,183
before cops were able to get us.

282
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,813
That's, the sum is that tape,

283
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,440
and I got it from a friend
of mine (indistinct)

284
00:23:25,361 --> 00:23:26,414
in

285
00:23:26,415 --> 00:23:29,639
1987 I think,

286
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,369
I was 14.

287
00:23:31,370 --> 00:23:34,213
Yeah, so this is how it came out.

288
00:23:37,322 --> 00:23:39,302
This was the release.

289
00:23:39,303 --> 00:23:41,229
(laughing)

290
00:23:41,230 --> 00:23:45,579
And then "Psí vojáci", one
of the earliest releases

291
00:23:45,580 --> 00:23:47,232
in our country.

292
00:23:47,233 --> 00:23:50,209
(joyful music)

293
00:23:50,210 --> 00:23:54,293
(man speaks in foreign language)

294
00:25:11,646 --> 00:25:14,063
(rock music)

295
00:25:26,806 --> 00:25:31,223
(man speaking in a foreign language)

296
00:27:05,523 --> 00:27:09,940
(man shouting in a foreign language)

297
00:27:11,922 --> 00:27:15,005
(anticipatory music)

298
00:27:20,132 --> 00:27:22,965
(people chanting)

299
00:27:27,223 --> 00:27:29,973
(people talking)

300
00:27:33,190 --> 00:27:37,607
(men speaking in a foreign language)

301
00:28:35,023 --> 00:28:35,953
- [Interviewer] What's the importance

302
00:28:35,954 --> 00:28:38,520
of getting the information out?

303
00:28:38,521 --> 00:28:40,771
- Because here for 40 years

304
00:28:42,980 --> 00:28:46,819
exists only the state
monopoly of information,

305
00:28:46,820 --> 00:28:48,099
very strong censorship.

306
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:52,239
And sometimes we are surprised

307
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,319
how it was influential,

308
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,609
how do people don't
understand what to do is.

309
00:28:59,610 --> 00:29:04,610
Now the communist
institution doesn't worked

310
00:29:05,030 --> 00:29:08,359
and we are independent group
of people, but some people,

311
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,779
especially these people, maybe
I can say ordinary people,

312
00:29:11,780 --> 00:29:14,543
man from the street, he
doesn't understand it.

313
00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:18,879
He's going to ask us what to do.

314
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,979
He's waiting for orders
and we want to change this.

315
00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:24,952
And I'm sure that we can change it

316
00:29:24,953 --> 00:29:27,411
with the free information.

317
00:29:27,412 --> 00:29:29,381
(rock music)

318
00:29:29,382 --> 00:29:33,549
(man singing in foreign language)

319
00:29:44,132 --> 00:29:47,592
(crowd clapping)

320
00:29:47,593 --> 00:29:50,843
(rock music continues)

321
00:29:59,924 --> 00:30:02,674
(crowd clapping)

322
00:30:06,187 --> 00:30:08,937
(crowd chanting)

323
00:30:10,923 --> 00:30:15,340
(man speaking in a foreign language)

324
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,057
(rock music)

325
00:31:44,333 --> 00:31:46,916
(upbeat music)

326
00:32:05,163 --> 00:32:06,389
- Yes.

327
00:32:06,390 --> 00:32:07,390
Good.

328
00:32:08,610 --> 00:32:11,439
And the poster was done by Jamie Reid

329
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,019
whose work I exhibited in the
"Decadence Now", exhibition.

330
00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:18,289
And I've got email from
him with this picture.

331
00:32:18,290 --> 00:32:19,753
So I feel like,

332
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,749
I have to put on public.

333
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:25,962
So I'll do it in the village.

334
00:32:25,963 --> 00:32:27,114
- Free Pussy Riot?

335
00:32:27,115 --> 00:32:27,948
- Mh-mm.

336
00:32:27,949 --> 00:32:32,198
(men speaking in foreign language)

337
00:32:52,704 --> 00:32:55,371
(lock clanking)

338
00:32:59,443 --> 00:33:02,359
Welcome to our local library.

339
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,469
It's the only public space
in the village of Kováry,

340
00:33:05,470 --> 00:33:08,439
and I'm local librarian.

341
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,269
And because no one was
visiting library originally,

342
00:33:12,270 --> 00:33:15,889
so with some other neighbors,
we decided to bring here

343
00:33:15,890 --> 00:33:19,989
refrigerators and fill
them with adult beverages,

344
00:33:19,990 --> 00:33:21,603
to attract the readers.

345
00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:30,730
This painting was done by one
of my students from Chicago,

346
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,399
from "The Art Institute",
who visited Kováry

347
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,400
and one evening he made a
painting of the locals sitting,

348
00:33:39,730 --> 00:33:44,730
and I have to put this poster
somewhere on a visible place.

349
00:33:45,155 --> 00:33:47,783
(paper rustling)

350
00:33:47,784 --> 00:33:50,201
(indistinct)

351
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:56,120
I found out that this is the
place I can place my roots.

352
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,482
Living in the concrete
building in Prague, you know,

353
00:34:00,483 --> 00:34:02,989
what kind of roots you can
have there, but you know,

354
00:34:02,990 --> 00:34:04,249
living in the old house

355
00:34:04,250 --> 00:34:07,533
is the place I can associate myself with.

356
00:34:09,350 --> 00:34:11,495
We are now at the (indistinct)

357
00:34:11,496 --> 00:34:16,479
one of very important historical
sites in the Czech lands.

358
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,809
Now it's deserted and, I
like it sort of deserted

359
00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:25,810
because anytime you come
during the weekdays or weekend,

360
00:34:25,910 --> 00:34:28,359
you are alone and you
hardly can meet anybody.

361
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,360
So it's nice place for feeling
alone and feeling the past,

362
00:34:35,330 --> 00:34:37,813
the presence and the future as well.

363
00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:41,753
Well, once I'll be here.

364
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:55,320
In the summer 1989, it was
two, three months before

365
00:34:56,620 --> 00:35:00,789
the political changes in Czechoslovakia.

366
00:35:00,790 --> 00:35:05,069
And I was applying for several
year for some state allowance

367
00:35:05,070 --> 00:35:08,799
to go to Austria, and I never got it.

368
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,839
And then at the end of 80s was a chance

369
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,389
that if some foreigner put
some money into Czech bank,

370
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:19,169
they can give you certain
allowance to travel.

371
00:35:19,170 --> 00:35:22,279
So some friends of my dad did it.

372
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:27,280
So I went for 2 weeks, to
Austria, I was in Vienna.

373
00:35:27,447 --> 00:35:29,659
But I remember that feeling,

374
00:35:29,660 --> 00:35:32,889
when I was getting back
home, in the train,

375
00:35:32,890 --> 00:35:37,890
I bought some records in
Vienna at that moment,

376
00:35:37,980 --> 00:35:41,597
and like a "Lou Reed Velvet Underground",

377
00:35:43,617 --> 00:35:46,889
"Clash" and "Sex Pistols" and so on.

378
00:35:46,890 --> 00:35:51,009
And I will remember forever
that feeling at the border

379
00:35:51,010 --> 00:35:53,709
when police came over and
was checking, you know,

380
00:35:53,710 --> 00:35:56,819
what do we have and what
kind of stuff we are taking

381
00:35:56,820 --> 00:35:58,789
and so on.

382
00:35:58,790 --> 00:36:02,659
I think, or that's why I have
that kind of strange feeling

383
00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:05,242
on border until now.

384
00:36:05,243 --> 00:36:09,076
(dramatic anticipatory music)

385
00:36:27,594 --> 00:36:31,927
(man singing in a foreign language)

386
00:37:11,263 --> 00:37:12,959
If you would ask me 20 years ago,

387
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,139
what would happen actually
during those 20 years,

388
00:37:16,140 --> 00:37:19,309
I would never think that
the things which happened

389
00:37:19,310 --> 00:37:20,310
will happen.

390
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:26,789
Everything changed completely,
traveling professionally.

391
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:29,599
Any dreams I had about my work,

392
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,269
I knew that under the previous
regime would never happened.

393
00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:36,519
- I was walking with a few
people from my university,

394
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,919
with (indistinct) and other
friends from that direction.

395
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,569
And we saw a lot of
happy people around us.

396
00:37:44,570 --> 00:37:49,139
It was just feeling of happiness before

397
00:37:49,140 --> 00:37:51,526
they, beat us on the corner.

398
00:37:51,527 --> 00:37:53,859
- But it was also feeling that

399
00:37:53,860 --> 00:37:56,319
for the first time in my life, I felt,

400
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,819
that some history is happening.

401
00:37:58,820 --> 00:38:00,720
So I just finished university

402
00:38:02,510 --> 00:38:03,510
in September, 89.

403
00:38:06,130 --> 00:38:10,969
And I started to work in
the (indistinct) institute

404
00:38:10,970 --> 00:38:15,229
and on the 17th, I went with my girlfriend

405
00:38:15,230 --> 00:38:16,649
who is now my wife,

406
00:38:16,650 --> 00:38:21,533
and mother of those kids,
to the demonstration.

407
00:38:22,830 --> 00:38:26,850
And at the end of the
situation, we did get to,

408
00:38:26,851 --> 00:38:27,684
(speaking in a foreign language)

409
00:38:27,684 --> 00:38:28,684
street here.

410
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:33,349
This place became, the next day,

411
00:38:33,350 --> 00:38:36,069
sort of like the unofficial memorial,

412
00:38:36,070 --> 00:38:39,639
because the worse beating
did happen actually,

413
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,699
in this corridor.

414
00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:43,429
So already the next day,
people just came here

415
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:45,956
to burn a candles and so on, you know.

416
00:38:45,957 --> 00:38:47,413
- It was just open corridor.

417
00:38:48,530 --> 00:38:49,363
- Yeah.

418
00:38:49,364 --> 00:38:50,552
- The doors are new.

419
00:38:50,553 --> 00:38:51,386
- The doors are new.

420
00:38:51,387 --> 00:38:52,728
- There was a lot of dogs and policeman.

421
00:38:52,729 --> 00:38:54,459
- But people they're
trapped here and from here,

422
00:38:54,460 --> 00:38:56,959
there was no chance to escape so,

423
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,528
the worse beating was here.

424
00:38:59,529 --> 00:39:03,612
(children talking in the street)

425
00:39:05,582 --> 00:39:07,709
This was only the chance
to leave the place

426
00:39:07,710 --> 00:39:09,279
through this street.

427
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,509
But there was the corridor
with the police with a sticks

428
00:39:12,510 --> 00:39:14,339
and they were beating people.

429
00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:18,249
And we were lucky because
we did get to the door,

430
00:39:18,250 --> 00:39:22,249
and someone did open the
apartment then we all went in

431
00:39:22,250 --> 00:39:25,353
and was there for like an hour and half.

432
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,379
And it was scary because we
switch off all the lights

433
00:39:30,380 --> 00:39:32,419
and we are completely silent.

434
00:39:32,420 --> 00:39:34,329
There was no chance to talk

435
00:39:34,330 --> 00:39:36,279
because the police was
running around the house,

436
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,729
looking for the hidden people.

437
00:39:38,730 --> 00:39:41,229
After 89, you know,

438
00:39:41,230 --> 00:39:43,509
those first two straight
years in case of culture,

439
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:44,710
everything was possible.

440
00:39:46,655 --> 00:39:51,119
And then the things somehow
settled and it was not so easy,

441
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,709
you know, it changed, you know.

442
00:39:53,710 --> 00:39:55,439
But of course we didn't know at the time

443
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,689
that we are living in
sort of almost absolute

444
00:39:58,690 --> 00:40:00,619
kind of freedom, you know,

445
00:40:00,620 --> 00:40:05,620
which turned to be controlled,
as it's ever there, you know.

446
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,879
But of course, the things
like traveling and other stuff

447
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,979
it's okay, but we are
controlled by many other things

448
00:40:11,980 --> 00:40:13,509
which we didn't realize.

449
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:15,859
We were not thinking about, you know,

450
00:40:15,860 --> 00:40:19,209
business, advertisement, you know.

451
00:40:19,210 --> 00:40:22,239
All the things which are
connected with that, you know.

452
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:25,407
We are feeling fear free
but actually we're not.

453
00:40:27,312 --> 00:40:31,729
(man speaking in a foreign language)

454
00:42:20,956 --> 00:42:23,539
(upbeat music)

455
00:42:36,965 --> 00:42:41,382
(men speaking in a foreign language)

456
00:42:49,466 --> 00:42:52,727
(crowd clapping and cheering)

457
00:42:52,728 --> 00:42:57,145
(men speaking in a foreign language)

458
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:04,461
(rock music)

459
00:43:04,462 --> 00:43:08,879
(men speaking in a foreign language)

460
00:43:20,441 --> 00:43:22,599
- And if we have an Soviet
troops in the audience,

461
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,800
you may dance off to this.

462
00:43:24,801 --> 00:43:27,551
(rhythmic music)

463
00:43:36,699 --> 00:43:39,449
(crowd clapping)

464
00:43:45,470 --> 00:43:48,220
(rhythmic music)

465
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:11,199
- My father, and two of his
friends bought this house

466
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:16,200
as a sort of escape from
Prague from inside to inside,

467
00:44:16,930 --> 00:44:20,079
not outside as I did
escape, like later on.

468
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,636
I was supposed to open
a bar or Borat maybe,

469
00:44:22,637 --> 00:44:24,739
something like (indistinct)

470
00:44:24,740 --> 00:44:28,789
Actually (indistinct) in
Manhattan, but in the same time,

471
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:31,109
I was preparing that, the revolution came.

472
00:44:31,110 --> 00:44:32,859
So I say like, "Why not do it here?

473
00:44:32,860 --> 00:44:35,039
Maybe I can help something
with it." (chuckles)

474
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,819
And then I was like this
crazy Americanized Czech

475
00:44:38,820 --> 00:44:41,889
who's coming back from America

476
00:44:41,890 --> 00:44:44,679
and telling everybody what
to do and not to do.(scoffs)

477
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,919
Because that revolution
was actually about drinking

478
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,793
for another 5 years or 10 years.

479
00:44:52,294 --> 00:44:54,869
And I say, "Yeah", I heard
about this rehearsal place

480
00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:56,589
in a small house there,

481
00:44:56,590 --> 00:45:00,359
at the corner of the old town."

482
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,189
I mean the Malá Strana of Prague

483
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:04,999
and that there is a pretty wild place

484
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,595
and it's called Újezd.

485
00:45:06,596 --> 00:45:09,134
(upbeat music)

486
00:45:09,135 --> 00:45:13,468
(man singing in a foreign language)

487
00:45:19,630 --> 00:45:23,099
Every Thursday, every
Friday and every Saturday,

488
00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:27,369
the capacity of the house
was about 250 people at once,

489
00:45:27,370 --> 00:45:29,979
including the rock room
and two spoon bars.

490
00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:33,809
And we have to like, let
4 people out, 4 people in,

491
00:45:33,810 --> 00:45:38,169
and there was a line of 200
people outside, just having fun,

492
00:45:38,170 --> 00:45:40,299
you know, standing, waiting maybe for two,

493
00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:41,729
three hours to get in,

494
00:45:41,730 --> 00:45:45,929
because the programs were
like four, five bands.

495
00:45:45,930 --> 00:45:48,899
The bands, it's funny
because, one band had to leave

496
00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:51,519
and the other one had to
wait outside and get into,

497
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,009
while the other one is
already out because,

498
00:45:54,010 --> 00:45:55,399
there was no room.
(laughing)

499
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,479
But we did things like
poetry readings there.

500
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,483
We did theater pieces.

501
00:46:01,470 --> 00:46:04,379
That time, it was so funny,
like to go downstairs

502
00:46:04,380 --> 00:46:08,399
and hear like some, you know,
pogo-punk music downstairs,

503
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,509
and people like fucking
high, drinking a beer.

504
00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:15,209
And then making love in the well there

505
00:46:15,210 --> 00:46:17,534
where (indistinct) was sitting, you know,

506
00:46:17,535 --> 00:46:20,929
and then you go to the rock center

507
00:46:20,930 --> 00:46:22,369
and there is "Velvet Revival"

508
00:46:22,370 --> 00:46:24,759
or classic rock and roll bands playing

509
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,289
or something like that.

510
00:46:26,290 --> 00:46:29,645
And then you go upstairs and there is

511
00:46:29,646 --> 00:46:31,849
(speaking foreign language)
playing Irish songs, you know,

512
00:46:31,850 --> 00:46:33,266
by the table,

513
00:46:33,267 --> 00:46:35,579
(indistinct) is dancing on a table.

514
00:46:35,580 --> 00:46:38,359
It's like some sort of
the tapes like, okay,

515
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,869
let's say "Too Short", "Talking Heads".

516
00:46:41,870 --> 00:46:43,743
This is all music was played there.

517
00:46:45,394 --> 00:46:46,943
Psí vojáci.

518
00:46:48,380 --> 00:46:53,380
Then we have a modern
time in 1992, I guess.

519
00:46:56,485 --> 00:46:59,689
(locks clanking)

520
00:46:59,690 --> 00:47:02,413
I purchased a few CD players.

521
00:47:04,140 --> 00:47:06,739
A lot of good music from
New York that I took.

522
00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:10,719
I actually took from
New York a lot. (laughs)

523
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:13,289
This is originally rap mixed.

524
00:47:13,290 --> 00:47:17,329
I was deejay usually from
some of the tape players.

525
00:47:17,330 --> 00:47:19,639
It was bizarre deejaying,
but we had people there

526
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,029
like musicians.

527
00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:24,639
They really like, like the
new hip hop scene of Prague

528
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,139
like (indistinct), Strýčka Homeboye.

529
00:47:27,140 --> 00:47:29,779
They're just 14 year old guys, you know,

530
00:47:29,780 --> 00:47:31,469
who like to drink in the night.

531
00:47:31,470 --> 00:47:35,279
And there were no hip-hop
club in Prague or something.

532
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,919
There was no place like that.

533
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,949
The "Tiger Lilies", they were
pretty regular in that time.

534
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:44,503
This is their first tour, I think.

535
00:47:45,410 --> 00:47:50,410
These are the regular program
posters from every month.

536
00:47:50,510 --> 00:47:54,282
Va-bank is a band from Moscow,

537
00:47:54,283 --> 00:47:59,283
Insania is a hardcore band
from Brno, Rononc (indistinct)

538
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:04,039
I really, because before that
I escaped, I really like,

539
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,679
and enjoy to travel and to meet people

540
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,659
and all kinds of
nationalities and all world.

541
00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:12,699
But it would happen then
later and I like in Borat

542
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:14,889
was that the whole world was coming to me.

543
00:48:14,890 --> 00:48:16,809
So I learned to travel in my mind

544
00:48:16,810 --> 00:48:18,901
and meeting the people there, you know.

545
00:48:18,902 --> 00:48:21,629
(tapes rattling)
Yeah.

546
00:48:21,630 --> 00:48:23,769
Enough!
(thud)

547
00:48:23,770 --> 00:48:26,317
- These like years of early 90s is,

548
00:48:28,679 --> 00:48:32,129
like one long party and
I have tons of memories,

549
00:48:32,130 --> 00:48:34,239
but I don't know was it in Borat,

550
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:37,549
was it in (indistinct),
was it somewhere else?

551
00:48:37,550 --> 00:48:39,619
It just happened.
(soft background music)

552
00:48:39,620 --> 00:48:44,620
We had such a clear
perspective on, the regime.

553
00:48:45,930 --> 00:48:50,629
I think we were able to
recognize soon after 1989,

554
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:55,519
that the new system, new regime
has many similar qualities

555
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,604
as the previous one.

556
00:48:57,605 --> 00:49:01,693
One of the differences, the
key difference between pre-89

557
00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:07,639
and after 89 is that no one was arrested

558
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,789
because of the music
or literature or films.

559
00:49:11,790 --> 00:49:16,219
But the enthusiasm was just
at the beginning of the 90s

560
00:49:16,220 --> 00:49:19,759
from alternative current
culture and everything,

561
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,313
disappeared actually quite soon.

562
00:49:22,314 --> 00:49:25,909
You know, I think the
situation was not normal.

563
00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:27,489
It's not natural.

564
00:49:27,490 --> 00:49:30,429
And it means that the possibilities

565
00:49:30,430 --> 00:49:33,139
which were at the beginning of 90s,

566
00:49:33,140 --> 00:49:36,454
disappeared quite soon
because of the commercialism.

567
00:49:36,455 --> 00:49:39,205
(rhythmic music)

568
00:49:53,290 --> 00:49:57,179
- Sometime in the early 90s,
I started to bring in bands

569
00:49:57,180 --> 00:50:02,180
over to Prague for shows under
the name, "Scrape Sound".

570
00:50:03,220 --> 00:50:07,619
I came from America in 1992,

571
00:50:07,620 --> 00:50:10,719
and was meeting with people all the time

572
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:12,449
and in clubs like "007"

573
00:50:12,450 --> 00:50:16,169
and a bunch of people were
talking about the scene,

574
00:50:16,170 --> 00:50:19,039
that there actually isn't any scene,

575
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,669
and that it's necessary to,

576
00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:25,113
bring foreign bands to play here.

577
00:50:25,114 --> 00:50:27,570
So, we actually brought some bands

578
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,519
like "Tar" and "Cows" and others.

579
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,039
Before "Scrape Sound" dropped its ambition

580
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,779
to be a record label, we
did put out some releases

581
00:50:40,780 --> 00:50:44,683
and one of them, first, one
of them, first of them was,

582
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,869
by the band "GNU".

583
00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:50,479
An EP,

584
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,480
on a

585
00:50:53,090 --> 00:50:54,403
red vinyl.

586
00:50:54,404 --> 00:50:55,859
(plastic case rattling)

587
00:50:55,860 --> 00:50:58,113
I actually didn't hear this,

588
00:50:59,584 --> 00:51:00,584
a long time.

589
00:51:02,930 --> 00:51:04,090
Oh man.

590
00:51:04,091 --> 00:51:06,508
(rock music)

591
00:51:08,579 --> 00:51:11,458
Sounds pretty cool.
(rock music)

592
00:51:11,459 --> 00:51:12,459
It's 1996.

593
00:51:17,317 --> 00:51:21,619
"Scrape Sound", is mainly three
people, apart from myself.

594
00:51:21,620 --> 00:51:23,799
It is my good friend Michal Parizek,

595
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,669
who now runs "Full Moon"
magazine as a chief editor,

596
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:31,306
and my good friend
(indistinct) from the band,

597
00:51:31,307 --> 00:51:32,857
"Please The Trees".

598
00:51:32,858 --> 00:51:36,219
(man speaking foreign language)

599
00:51:36,220 --> 00:51:38,502
- [Man] This is a-(indistinct)

600
00:51:38,503 --> 00:51:39,871
- [Man] Michal.
- Hello hi.

601
00:51:39,872 --> 00:51:43,989
(indistinct) your stage manager.

602
00:51:43,990 --> 00:51:44,970
- Okay, cool.

603
00:51:44,970 --> 00:51:45,803
- Do you wanna see the

604
00:51:45,804 --> 00:51:47,229
backstage manager?
- Backstage manager.

605
00:51:47,230 --> 00:51:49,879
Should we get the hands, stage hands?

606
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,139
Right now.
- Let's look at the-

607
00:51:51,140 --> 00:51:53,273
- Yeah, yeah, all right.
- Right. All right.

608
00:51:55,078 --> 00:51:59,245
(man speaking a foreign language)

609
00:52:14,550 --> 00:52:17,409
- [Man] He's into the same stuff as I am.

610
00:52:17,410 --> 00:52:21,259
I knew I need somebody
to join "Scrape Sound",

611
00:52:21,260 --> 00:52:24,349
because we were just 2
people doing "Scrape Sound",

612
00:52:24,350 --> 00:52:25,959
bringing bands.

613
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,349
I knew right away that he's
the one to be the third one.

614
00:52:29,350 --> 00:52:33,699
So he became part of "Scrape
Sound", but besides that,

615
00:52:33,700 --> 00:52:35,569
he was a musician.

616
00:52:35,570 --> 00:52:37,013
He's a singer.

617
00:52:37,014 --> 00:52:39,431
(rock music)

618
00:52:42,406 --> 00:52:45,156
(crowd cheering)

619
00:52:46,423 --> 00:52:49,506
(indistinct singing)

620
00:53:01,704 --> 00:53:05,439
It's 20 years of "Scrape Sound" tonight.

621
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:10,440
And we're celebrating with
the show of "Mudhoney".

622
00:53:10,867 --> 00:53:14,633
"Mudhoney" is a band
that's been reason why,

623
00:53:15,870 --> 00:53:18,566
I and couple of other people founded

624
00:53:18,567 --> 00:53:21,269
"Scrape Sound", 20 years ago.

625
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:26,259
And when I came back to
Prague on my travels in 1992,

626
00:53:26,260 --> 00:53:30,999
I knew I was gonna work
somehow in that music industry

627
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:31,893
or something like that.

628
00:53:31,894 --> 00:53:36,893
I just wanted to organize some
shows and develop to level

629
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,602
when I could bring Mudhoney over.

630
00:53:39,603 --> 00:53:42,020
(rock music)

631
00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:47,319
We tried to transform something,
whether it was successful

632
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,579
or not, I don't know.

633
00:53:48,580 --> 00:53:51,239
We're still here, still doing this.

634
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:54,219
We wanted to make the
crowds in sort of way,

635
00:53:54,220 --> 00:53:57,159
but then we realized it's not for us.

636
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,455
So we came back to the underground way,

637
00:54:01,456 --> 00:54:05,929
and they don't try for mainstream anymore

638
00:54:05,930 --> 00:54:06,963
for long years now.

639
00:54:07,995 --> 00:54:12,162
(woman speaking foreign language)

640
00:54:24,830 --> 00:54:29,830
- So this is our very
alternative village gallery.

641
00:54:30,290 --> 00:54:34,459
I am artist, I am living
all my life in Prague.

642
00:54:34,460 --> 00:54:38,899
I do 20 or more years professional art.

643
00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:41,029
And I know lots of artists.

644
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:43,049
Most of them are my friends.

645
00:54:43,050 --> 00:54:46,179
So that's somehow my know-how,

646
00:54:46,180 --> 00:54:48,069
which I can bring to the village

647
00:54:48,070 --> 00:54:50,489
and show people who live here,

648
00:54:50,490 --> 00:54:52,826
what I know, what I like.

649
00:54:52,827 --> 00:54:56,983
But then for me it was
really great opportunity.

650
00:54:58,370 --> 00:55:01,959
Some offer to make a
illustration or drawings

651
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,679
for the book "Tao", from
the Chinese philosopher,

652
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:07,680
Lao Tzu.

653
00:55:09,110 --> 00:55:11,109
No, I like this format of drawings,

654
00:55:11,110 --> 00:55:14,739
so I just use Chinese ink
or aquarelle, it's quick.

655
00:55:14,740 --> 00:55:17,919
And now when I have baby,
I haven't really time,

656
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,333
so I need work quickly.

657
00:55:20,187 --> 00:55:21,319
(laughing)

658
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,577
So there's this, (indistinct)
it's for Tao pictures.

659
00:55:28,797 --> 00:55:31,819
These pictures, I would like
to show on my exhibition

660
00:55:31,820 --> 00:55:33,793
in (indistinct) gallery also because,

661
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:37,879
people have me just like a photographer,

662
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,683
I really liked to draw.

663
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,229
I'm known like person who
manipulate with reality

664
00:55:45,230 --> 00:55:47,009
with photography.

665
00:55:47,010 --> 00:55:49,089
So I continue also this way, you know?

666
00:55:49,090 --> 00:55:53,546
But some photography is, are
normal and some I manipulate.

667
00:55:53,547 --> 00:55:54,719
(soft rhythmic music)
Something pushed me always

668
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:57,419
to do some kind of experiments.

669
00:55:57,420 --> 00:56:01,119
Beginning of, the middle
of 90s, I make this photo

670
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,279
of open women's legs.

671
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,089
You know, it was some game, playing game

672
00:56:06,090 --> 00:56:10,629
and show, you know, this
place on women's body,

673
00:56:10,630 --> 00:56:14,319
place from where most of us was born,

674
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:18,349
but we have problematic
relation with displays.

675
00:56:18,350 --> 00:56:21,623
I like confronting people
with these own body,

676
00:56:22,534 --> 00:56:24,583
by these tools of advertisement.

677
00:56:25,660 --> 00:56:27,409
It was also pornography everywhere.

678
00:56:27,410 --> 00:56:30,579
It was something new and this
advertisement was everywhere.

679
00:56:30,580 --> 00:56:33,989
It was something new and
it was big change for us

680
00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:35,729
who live under communism,

681
00:56:35,730 --> 00:56:38,009
where everything looks so gray

682
00:56:38,010 --> 00:56:40,653
and broken, old.

683
00:56:41,660 --> 00:56:43,809
Everything started being more colorful

684
00:56:43,810 --> 00:56:47,333
and it was kind of shock, you know?

685
00:56:48,430 --> 00:56:51,464
Be in this reality we just dreaming about.

686
00:56:51,465 --> 00:56:56,465
So, I think some of my works
from the 90s was about this.

687
00:56:57,210 --> 00:56:59,029
You have this free spirit

688
00:56:59,030 --> 00:57:01,749
from our "Velvet Revolution" inside.

689
00:57:01,750 --> 00:57:03,799
It's still life for me.

690
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:08,059
It's some kind of war between
generations, you know?

691
00:57:08,060 --> 00:57:09,974
This war about power.

692
00:57:09,975 --> 00:57:11,049
(laughs)

693
00:57:11,050 --> 00:57:15,629
So, you just feel like communist,
they have more power now.

694
00:57:15,630 --> 00:57:17,766
It was maybe always, but
now when I live here,

695
00:57:17,767 --> 00:57:21,309
and I see on the small village
things, it's really bad.

696
00:57:21,310 --> 00:57:23,319
So I think, you know, we cannot sleep

697
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,779
and we must do something, what we can do.

698
00:57:26,780 --> 00:57:28,499
But you are always confront I think,

699
00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:31,450
with this kind of establishment.

700
00:57:31,451 --> 00:57:36,451
(uplifting music)
(dog barking)

701
00:57:37,790 --> 00:57:40,949
- We there after long
time, the third generation,

702
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:43,579
which in relatively young age

703
00:57:43,580 --> 00:57:48,499
we there about, 20, 21,
22 years old in 1989.

704
00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:51,219
A chance to travel, to see things.

705
00:57:51,220 --> 00:57:55,230
If someone was 30, 35 at that time,

706
00:57:55,231 --> 00:57:57,659
his family, children, and so on.

707
00:57:57,660 --> 00:57:59,169
It was not possible of course,

708
00:57:59,170 --> 00:58:02,309
to take back and travel for
three weeks abroad, you know?

709
00:58:02,310 --> 00:58:06,079
So, there were certain gap of information

710
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,833
and certain gap of experience.

711
00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:11,289
(man speaking in foreign language)

712
00:58:11,290 --> 00:58:14,809
I'm in institution since 2010,

713
00:58:14,810 --> 00:58:17,769
I'm teaching at "The Academy
of Fine Arts", in Prague.

714
00:58:17,770 --> 00:58:20,669
I enjoy to be with the students

715
00:58:20,670 --> 00:58:23,567
and it was probably the
right time for that.

716
00:58:23,568 --> 00:58:26,485
(students talking)

717
00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:37,900
This is my office, or our
office, department office.

718
00:58:40,354 --> 00:58:43,021
(keys rattling)

719
00:58:44,741 --> 00:58:47,619
(indistinct)

720
00:58:47,620 --> 00:58:51,870
(man speaking in foreign language)

721
01:01:10,279 --> 01:01:14,529
(men speaking in foreign language)

722
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,289
- If someone were to tell me 20 years ago

723
01:02:29,290 --> 01:02:33,139
that I would do exhibitions
with (indistinct)

724
01:02:33,140 --> 01:02:34,729
with Jake and Dinos Chapman,

725
01:02:34,730 --> 01:02:36,179
and with others.

726
01:02:36,180 --> 01:02:38,199
I would say, "Wow, it's amazing."

727
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,008
You know, it would be great.

728
01:02:40,009 --> 01:02:42,041
(soft rock music)
I was asked by the director

729
01:02:42,042 --> 01:02:43,938
of (indistinct)

730
01:02:43,939 --> 01:02:46,989
what do I think about the chance to do

731
01:02:46,990 --> 01:02:50,259
like a solo exhibition
of (foreign language)

732
01:02:50,260 --> 01:02:53,499
He asked me, "Do you
think there's enough work

733
01:02:53,500 --> 01:02:58,009
to fill the whole space of the gallery?"

734
01:02:58,010 --> 01:03:02,109
And I realized that yes,

735
01:03:02,110 --> 01:03:03,859
that it's possible to do it.

736
01:03:03,860 --> 01:03:06,259
Especially if there is a
chance to work directly

737
01:03:06,260 --> 01:03:08,689
with the artist and with a studio.

738
01:03:08,690 --> 01:03:11,089
(soft rock music)

739
01:03:11,090 --> 01:03:14,409
In this room are works from 2006,

740
01:03:14,410 --> 01:03:19,410
as this piece called "Deluge"
'til 2011, "The Raft".

741
01:03:19,770 --> 01:03:23,209
Both of the works have
references to our history,

742
01:03:23,210 --> 01:03:28,210
which for me like a continuous
development of pop art.

743
01:03:29,830 --> 01:03:32,349
It's something what really is connected

744
01:03:32,350 --> 01:03:34,742
with the end of our whole (indistinct)

745
01:03:34,743 --> 01:03:36,539
and the olden the generation.

746
01:03:36,540 --> 01:03:38,559
And it's just like the expression

747
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:42,529
of where the pop art
is nowadays, you know?

748
01:03:42,530 --> 01:03:45,369
As I said, you know,
I was never interested

749
01:03:45,370 --> 01:03:50,370
in being a curator and I don't
consider myself as a curator.

750
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,009
And the reason why I
started to do exhibition

751
01:03:53,010 --> 01:03:57,360
is quite simple that,
my publisher wanted to

752
01:04:00,610 --> 01:04:02,849
do beside the book.

753
01:04:02,850 --> 01:04:05,499
He said that it would be like a better,

754
01:04:05,500 --> 01:04:08,029
from the practical point of view,

755
01:04:08,030 --> 01:04:10,479
to organize also exhibition, you know?

756
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:15,079
That it's easy here to get
fundings, support, sponsors,

757
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,139
and patrons or whoever else,

758
01:04:17,140 --> 01:04:21,573
if you are doing exhibition
and book, then just book.

759
01:04:22,770 --> 01:04:25,399
Otherwise I would be completely happy

760
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,553
just with writing books.

761
01:04:27,554 --> 01:04:30,721
(gentle upbeat music)

762
01:04:45,736 --> 01:04:50,069
(man singing in a foreign language)

763
01:05:00,206 --> 01:05:04,873
(both men speaking in foreign language)

764
01:06:56,839 --> 01:07:01,454
(car engine rumbling sound effect)

765
01:07:01,455 --> 01:07:03,872
(rock music)

766
01:07:13,350 --> 01:07:18,019
- The system of political
parties and parliament,

767
01:07:18,020 --> 01:07:19,603
and then the authorities.

768
01:07:23,020 --> 01:07:24,020
It's all rut.

769
01:07:26,799 --> 01:07:28,803
It's not functioning properly.

770
01:07:29,850 --> 01:07:32,779
And you can feel it every
day in whatever you do.

771
01:07:32,780 --> 01:07:34,830
Something has to change.

772
01:07:34,831 --> 01:07:37,248
(rock music)

773
01:07:40,804 --> 01:07:45,179
♪ The devil ♪

774
01:07:45,180 --> 01:07:49,097
♪ The devil would've sung rock ♪

775
01:07:54,162 --> 01:07:59,162
I still feel that small cultural
entities be it, you know,

776
01:07:59,250 --> 01:08:01,419
a production group

777
01:08:01,420 --> 01:08:04,829
that puts on small club
gigs for 30 people,

778
01:08:04,830 --> 01:08:07,789
or maybe a little record store.

779
01:08:07,790 --> 01:08:12,719
These very small entities
still have very important role

780
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,109
in what's happening on the scene.

781
01:08:15,110 --> 01:08:17,660
Not only in our country,
but anywhere in the world.

782
01:08:19,090 --> 01:08:22,649
People should start with themselves.

783
01:08:22,650 --> 01:08:24,389
There are also records on this side.

784
01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:27,566
(rock music)

785
01:08:27,567 --> 01:08:31,779
"Scrape Town", is one of these
entities that make sense,

786
01:08:31,780 --> 01:08:35,799
and I like to be part of that (indistinct)

787
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:36,960
This had to come out

788
01:08:38,290 --> 01:08:42,083
in August, late August 68
or something like that.

789
01:08:43,201 --> 01:08:47,093
The song premiered that
week when the tanks came,

790
01:08:47,937 --> 01:08:49,949
"A prayer for Marta."

791
01:08:49,950 --> 01:08:52,700
That's the song she was
singing at the balconies

792
01:08:53,930 --> 01:08:56,509
in November 89.

793
01:08:56,510 --> 01:08:57,693
That's the song.

794
01:08:58,820 --> 01:09:02,319
And so this is the first (indistinct)

795
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:03,320
Collectable.

796
01:09:04,670 --> 01:09:05,829
I have it though.

797
01:09:05,830 --> 01:09:07,288
(laughs)

798
01:09:07,289 --> 01:09:11,299
(speaking foreign language)

799
01:09:11,300 --> 01:09:13,883
(upbeat music)

800
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:24,309
- If I look back, things in
general didn't change much.

801
01:09:24,310 --> 01:09:26,959
The fundamental difference is that

802
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:31,349
the penetration of political
regime into everyday life,

803
01:09:31,350 --> 01:09:33,769
is now not so intense

804
01:09:33,770 --> 01:09:35,229
and so dramatic,

805
01:09:35,230 --> 01:09:38,630
and so strict as it used to be.

806
01:09:38,631 --> 01:09:41,919
(rhythmic upbeat music)

807
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,479
In certain sense, it's
enormously a huge change.

808
01:09:45,480 --> 01:09:48,149
Politically I'm living now

809
01:09:48,150 --> 01:09:51,859
in very similar intentional isolation

810
01:09:51,860 --> 01:09:53,603
I was living during 80s.

811
01:09:54,489 --> 01:09:59,489
I can do this isolation
without danger for my family.

812
01:10:00,330 --> 01:10:05,219
How I live, what I do in
my life, is not affecting

813
01:10:05,220 --> 01:10:09,983
or limiting possibilities
of my kids, for example.

814
01:10:10,830 --> 01:10:11,956
And that's big difference, you know?

815
01:10:11,957 --> 01:10:14,409
That's why I don't want to say that now,

816
01:10:14,410 --> 01:10:17,209
it is the same as it
used to be 30 years ago,

817
01:10:17,210 --> 01:10:18,739
not at all.

818
01:10:18,740 --> 01:10:22,030
You know? From this
practical point of view.

819
01:10:22,031 --> 01:10:23,439
(gentle music)

820
01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:27,659
But to think that everything is fine

821
01:10:27,660 --> 01:10:29,929
and everything is happy now,

822
01:10:29,930 --> 01:10:32,213
it's of course not true as well.

823
01:10:33,282 --> 01:10:34,999
(sighs)

824
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,999
And maybe for some people,

825
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,829
the present is even more
difficult than before,

826
01:10:40,830 --> 01:10:42,609
because of their needs,

827
01:10:42,610 --> 01:10:46,669
jobs, health, other things.

828
01:10:46,670 --> 01:10:50,859
And that's the whole problem
of so-called democracy.

829
01:10:50,860 --> 01:10:52,239
You hear you have government,

830
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:56,929
or you have leaders which
reflects the nation.

831
01:10:56,930 --> 01:11:00,119
So I totally don't agree with that.

832
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,209
The general frustration

833
01:11:02,210 --> 01:11:06,349
of contemporary society is so intense.

834
01:11:06,350 --> 01:11:08,729
It's why so many people are telling

835
01:11:08,730 --> 01:11:11,339
that the previous regime was better

836
01:11:11,340 --> 01:11:13,909
or the life was better and so on.

837
01:11:13,910 --> 01:11:17,880
That's why I think art is so
important, because art can

838
01:11:18,980 --> 01:11:20,010
in fact

839
01:11:21,190 --> 01:11:26,190
answer many, very difficult,
social or political questions.

840
01:11:28,549 --> 01:11:31,882
(rhythmic upbeat music)

841
01:11:33,270 --> 01:11:36,029
I am constantly happy that things changed

842
01:11:36,030 --> 01:11:39,799
and they can live life I live,

843
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,913
and fulfilling my dreams step by step.

844
01:11:43,847 --> 01:11:48,847
And I, still have so many
dreams that I have enough work

845
01:11:50,506 --> 01:11:51,863
for 30 years.

846
01:11:52,866 --> 01:11:56,436
(rhythmic music)

847
01:11:56,437 --> 01:11:57,993
(rhythmic upbeat music)

848
01:11:57,994 --> 01:12:02,161
(man singing in foreign language)